chicago60607
09-17 12:51 PM
FInally on recording the vote it actually failed. May be the chair wanted the amendment to pass.
Man, I gave you a green just for the Megatron reference!
By the way, wasn't it Starscream who says "The ayes have it" before dumping them out in space :)
Man, I gave you a green just for the Megatron reference!
By the way, wasn't it Starscream who says "The ayes have it" before dumping them out in space :)
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gk_2000
04-22 06:35 PM
Well.. everybody is posting OPINIONS here, so whatever is your point there.
Can you quote the section of the US constitution that prevents discrimination based on "country of origin"?
Thanks for asking this. I found this: Civil Rights Division Home Page (http://www.justice.gov/crt/legalinfo/natorigin.php)
IMO, rather useful in our discussion, though not relating to the constitution. But if you insist, I might point you to the 14th amendment ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion
Read the "Equal protection clause". It mentions this case:
The Court has also struck down redistricting plans in which race was a key consideration. In Shaw v. Reno (1993), the Court prohibited a North Carolina plan aimed at creating majority-black districts to balance historic underrepresentation in the state's congressional delegations
Do you agree that we can draw a direct parallel of this case to our case, where they are segregating visa numbers based on the country of origin?
Can you quote the section of the US constitution that prevents discrimination based on "country of origin"?
Thanks for asking this. I found this: Civil Rights Division Home Page (http://www.justice.gov/crt/legalinfo/natorigin.php)
IMO, rather useful in our discussion, though not relating to the constitution. But if you insist, I might point you to the 14th amendment ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion
Read the "Equal protection clause". It mentions this case:
The Court has also struck down redistricting plans in which race was a key consideration. In Shaw v. Reno (1993), the Court prohibited a North Carolina plan aimed at creating majority-black districts to balance historic underrepresentation in the state's congressional delegations
Do you agree that we can draw a direct parallel of this case to our case, where they are segregating visa numbers based on the country of origin?
kubmilegaGC
09-17 07:39 PM
Pls include letter to Ombudsman in the voting options.
I dont think I can add that option now...can I?
I dont think I can add that option now...can I?
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go_guy123
05-07 03:02 PM
First of all Congratulations desi#### and thanks for continuing to support IV.
Interesting discussion going on. Yes, I agree that most of us here are waiting for our GC and some of them go on to become US Citizens.
I believe that becoming a citizen of any country is a person's choice, so let us not give desi### a hard time here.:o
But I certainly do not think it is an 'achievement' to get a US citizenship, just because it implies indirectly it is an 'achievement' to let go off Indian citizenship. Nothing meant to offend you desi#### but it hurts when one reads such a statement somewhere deep inside the mind. But hey, as I said earlier, to each his own and noone should be judging others in their decisions.
And it is not only Indians becoming US citizens every year. There are others too.
Personally, even with all the advantages as stated above of being a US citizen, I will never let go of my Indian passport. Even if the authorities give it to me tomorrow in a lottery;) Never.
Why? Because my identity, my rich heritage, my family roots, my parents, my culture everything is Indian and am proud of it. There are lot of sentimental and emotional attachments. I was going through the OCI articles today after reading this discussion.
It is not exactly a dual citizenship. Some clauses are no voting rights! No Indian Passport!
Getting a GC is another thing, but when I decide to go back after a couple of years, I would definitely want to retain my voting rights. ! I rest my case.
US citizenship is a final stop for most/many immigrants. Post Sep 11, there has been a surge in nationalization applications because technically GC is like a long term visa to stay permanently. Therefore there is always a risk of losing GC because of DUI or other trivial or accidental issues etc.
Also post Sep 11, a lot of govt/sensitive projects that were available for GC only have been restricted to US Citizens. You lose a significant chunk of the available jobs market if you are a GC holder in the Maryland/DC/North Virgina area. In fact I know a lot of GC who kept their old passports but because of these hassles eventually decided for Naturalization.
Interesting discussion going on. Yes, I agree that most of us here are waiting for our GC and some of them go on to become US Citizens.
I believe that becoming a citizen of any country is a person's choice, so let us not give desi### a hard time here.:o
But I certainly do not think it is an 'achievement' to get a US citizenship, just because it implies indirectly it is an 'achievement' to let go off Indian citizenship. Nothing meant to offend you desi#### but it hurts when one reads such a statement somewhere deep inside the mind. But hey, as I said earlier, to each his own and noone should be judging others in their decisions.
And it is not only Indians becoming US citizens every year. There are others too.
Personally, even with all the advantages as stated above of being a US citizen, I will never let go of my Indian passport. Even if the authorities give it to me tomorrow in a lottery;) Never.
Why? Because my identity, my rich heritage, my family roots, my parents, my culture everything is Indian and am proud of it. There are lot of sentimental and emotional attachments. I was going through the OCI articles today after reading this discussion.
It is not exactly a dual citizenship. Some clauses are no voting rights! No Indian Passport!
Getting a GC is another thing, but when I decide to go back after a couple of years, I would definitely want to retain my voting rights. ! I rest my case.
US citizenship is a final stop for most/many immigrants. Post Sep 11, there has been a surge in nationalization applications because technically GC is like a long term visa to stay permanently. Therefore there is always a risk of losing GC because of DUI or other trivial or accidental issues etc.
Also post Sep 11, a lot of govt/sensitive projects that were available for GC only have been restricted to US Citizens. You lose a significant chunk of the available jobs market if you are a GC holder in the Maryland/DC/North Virgina area. In fact I know a lot of GC who kept their old passports but because of these hassles eventually decided for Naturalization.
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eb3retro
11-02 11:55 AM
I would like to share my experience and it may help some people here.
My H1 was sponsored by company A when I was working with them on OPT. I paid $3000 for H1 filing and attorney fees and company A gave me the H1 approval notice only after I signed an agreement that I would work for atleast one year with them.
Afetr 1 month of my H1 approval, I got a better job offer from company B and I got the H1 transferred. I notified my client and company A who threatened to revoke my H1, take me to court etc etc. They also withheld 4 weeks of my pay.
After joining company B, I filed a complaint against company A with DOL that they withheld my salary and also they demanded H1 fees from me. After 2 weeks of that complaint, my salary was deposited into my account and DOL was looking into my complaint about H1 fees. This case finally got resolved last week after about 18 months, when DOL finally persuaded company A to pay $3000 back to me.
I would request everyone who is a victim of these blood sucking employers to
take every possible action against them. There's a very little chance that they would go to court because they are themselves involved in gross irregularities.
now that this is not a private issue anymore (you have taken the employer to the court and DOL) you can defenitely save some souls if you reveal your employer here. having said, wish everyone had courage like you. good job.
My H1 was sponsored by company A when I was working with them on OPT. I paid $3000 for H1 filing and attorney fees and company A gave me the H1 approval notice only after I signed an agreement that I would work for atleast one year with them.
Afetr 1 month of my H1 approval, I got a better job offer from company B and I got the H1 transferred. I notified my client and company A who threatened to revoke my H1, take me to court etc etc. They also withheld 4 weeks of my pay.
After joining company B, I filed a complaint against company A with DOL that they withheld my salary and also they demanded H1 fees from me. After 2 weeks of that complaint, my salary was deposited into my account and DOL was looking into my complaint about H1 fees. This case finally got resolved last week after about 18 months, when DOL finally persuaded company A to pay $3000 back to me.
I would request everyone who is a victim of these blood sucking employers to
take every possible action against them. There's a very little chance that they would go to court because they are themselves involved in gross irregularities.
now that this is not a private issue anymore (you have taken the employer to the court and DOL) you can defenitely save some souls if you reveal your employer here. having said, wish everyone had courage like you. good job.
Rajeev
01-31 03:54 PM
Guys, can any one who has login account in murthy forum post the same message and link? That would still attract more crowd.
It is too late for Murthy.com. The poll will be closing shortly.
It is too late for Murthy.com. The poll will be closing shortly.
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arrarrgee
07-19 08:18 AM
I think its a typo too
What is obvious is either you have been sleeping all thru or you are new to IV. Aman has made atleast 25-30 trips to DC in last18-20 months
What is obvious is either you have been sleeping all thru or you are new to IV. Aman has made atleast 25-30 trips to DC in last18-20 months
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caliguy
09-18 01:35 PM
Thanks @ geesee.
I was transferred to a IO yesterday. She was rude, told me that I should not be calling since they responsed to the first SR that was opened by my attorney on 09/01.
Not sure if you read the other thread, but I have got 2 responses from USCIS so far - one for inquiry that was sent when I took the Infopass and the other one that was opened by my attorney.
Response that I got for inquiry from my Infopass was " Based on the additional documentation provided, your case qualifies for expedited processing. You should hear back from us in 60 days. If you do not hear back in 60 days, please call us back".
I havent provided any documentation to them in the last 2 years, after my FP was done in September 2007.
So when I talked to the IO, she read out that message to me and in a subtle way asked me "What part of that message do you not get"?? I was trying to explain the situation to her, and before I could finish - she said "Sir, I got to move on and take other calls, please dont call back before November 15th".
And then she said the part that chuckles me the most - Sir, is there anything else you would like to me repeat, or do you have any other questions.....??
Hell yeah, I only have one question - when will I get the magic email?? :o
I was transferred to a IO yesterday. She was rude, told me that I should not be calling since they responsed to the first SR that was opened by my attorney on 09/01.
Not sure if you read the other thread, but I have got 2 responses from USCIS so far - one for inquiry that was sent when I took the Infopass and the other one that was opened by my attorney.
Response that I got for inquiry from my Infopass was " Based on the additional documentation provided, your case qualifies for expedited processing. You should hear back from us in 60 days. If you do not hear back in 60 days, please call us back".
I havent provided any documentation to them in the last 2 years, after my FP was done in September 2007.
So when I talked to the IO, she read out that message to me and in a subtle way asked me "What part of that message do you not get"?? I was trying to explain the situation to her, and before I could finish - she said "Sir, I got to move on and take other calls, please dont call back before November 15th".
And then she said the part that chuckles me the most - Sir, is there anything else you would like to me repeat, or do you have any other questions.....??
Hell yeah, I only have one question - when will I get the magic email?? :o
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whoever
02-07 07:32 AM
I wonder why EB 3 ROW is stuck at Aug 02. I guess it should move faster.
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amitjoey
01-31 12:49 PM
can u provide a link. This rule is bad for AILA because of the loss of revenue and hence they were against it. But since this is in the "Final Rule Making" process there's not much they can do. BTW u don't need to have the I140 approved for the LC sub to go thru. U just need the labor substitution approved stamp before the rule gets published.
go to aila.com, then go to "additional recent postings" (approx - center of page-under -just posted-greyed link) look for -
Rumor of the Day:
go to aila.com, then go to "additional recent postings" (approx - center of page-under -just posted-greyed link) look for -
Rumor of the Day:
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Ramba
11-13 05:35 PM
Hi Indyanguy,
This is an excellent question and I was also looking for an answer. I am into my 6th year of H1-B(exactly 5 years 1 month) and also have an approved EAD & AP.
I have a great JOB offer but hesitating to invoke AC21(moving using H1-B/EAD) because these days there are many 485 DENIALS( the moment I1-40 is REVOKED). And NOTHING is guaranteed even if we send the AC21 documents to USCIS. And the EAD automatically gets invalid anyways when the 485 is denied.
Doing some research to find out if H1-B extension beyond 6th year is valid if 485 - gets DENIED? (Example: If I get a 3 year H1-B extension based on my current I-140 approval)?
Also not sure if it applies in my case as I still have 10-11 months of H1-B remaining and if I decide to take up this oppurtunity in the next couple of months and 485 gets DENIED after that. May be I will have enough time to file MTR? I should be fine. But what if 485 gets DENIED after I complete 6 years?
Please provide genuine answers.
These answers will BENEFIT many people.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Srini
In your situation, it is better to use EAD to save remaining time in 6 year period of H1. It is wise to use EAD, if you are in initial 6 year period of H1. In case if 485 is denied, you can go back to H1 and enjoy remaining period in 6 years. H1 extension, beyond 6 years is always based on pending immigration applications like LC, 140 and 485. If 485 (final step in GC) is denied, the H1 extension is also invalid. Fortunatly, USCIS do not have highly integrated system to revoke all underlying benefits (H1 Extn or EAD) based on pending immigration application was denied. After denying 485, unless USCIS specifically revoke H1B extension they granted after 6 years or EAD, you may be eligible to legally work with that document till its expiry. However, if they bring more integration to their system, they may deny all subsidary benefits due to denial of 140/485.
This is an excellent question and I was also looking for an answer. I am into my 6th year of H1-B(exactly 5 years 1 month) and also have an approved EAD & AP.
I have a great JOB offer but hesitating to invoke AC21(moving using H1-B/EAD) because these days there are many 485 DENIALS( the moment I1-40 is REVOKED). And NOTHING is guaranteed even if we send the AC21 documents to USCIS. And the EAD automatically gets invalid anyways when the 485 is denied.
Doing some research to find out if H1-B extension beyond 6th year is valid if 485 - gets DENIED? (Example: If I get a 3 year H1-B extension based on my current I-140 approval)?
Also not sure if it applies in my case as I still have 10-11 months of H1-B remaining and if I decide to take up this oppurtunity in the next couple of months and 485 gets DENIED after that. May be I will have enough time to file MTR? I should be fine. But what if 485 gets DENIED after I complete 6 years?
Please provide genuine answers.
These answers will BENEFIT many people.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Srini
In your situation, it is better to use EAD to save remaining time in 6 year period of H1. It is wise to use EAD, if you are in initial 6 year period of H1. In case if 485 is denied, you can go back to H1 and enjoy remaining period in 6 years. H1 extension, beyond 6 years is always based on pending immigration applications like LC, 140 and 485. If 485 (final step in GC) is denied, the H1 extension is also invalid. Fortunatly, USCIS do not have highly integrated system to revoke all underlying benefits (H1 Extn or EAD) based on pending immigration application was denied. After denying 485, unless USCIS specifically revoke H1B extension they granted after 6 years or EAD, you may be eligible to legally work with that document till its expiry. However, if they bring more integration to their system, they may deny all subsidary benefits due to denial of 140/485.
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GCAmigo
02-06 11:40 AM
So How come all we hear from the core team is requests for contribution?
& you have the answer 2 ur question..
& you have the answer 2 ur question..
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nixstor
05-23 02:07 PM
I am not sure how can one call it "absurdity" if 200 calls spread over 12 lawmakers got 2 law makers from the CHC co sponsor all three bills. ?
Digital signatures might help every IV member sign it off with out moving an inch. Web faxes and Digital signatures are NOT what we need. been there, done that and we know how it works.
I am not sure how the OP concluded that we are calling haphazardly. A lot of State chapters are talking with their rep's offices to get co sponsorship. If that's some thing of interest to you, work with your state chapter to see what they are doing in the chapter. I hope the OP would not say that calling a representative's office is haphazard.
Digital signatures might help every IV member sign it off with out moving an inch. Web faxes and Digital signatures are NOT what we need. been there, done that and we know how it works.
I am not sure how the OP concluded that we are calling haphazardly. A lot of State chapters are talking with their rep's offices to get co sponsorship. If that's some thing of interest to you, work with your state chapter to see what they are doing in the chapter. I hope the OP would not say that calling a representative's office is haphazard.
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mysticpine
06-11 01:50 PM
"your personal assets are at stake"
move assets to company that you can control ?
move assets to company that you can control ?
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sanju
09-24 12:30 AM
I did not use to word wrong, so dont try to setup strawman arguments. I used the word unfair. And using the reverse argument that you use. It ain't "right" just become you support it.
And yes, it is unfair, because it is unfair for all those promised the current system, not because I think it is unfair.
Well, I could read out for you what you wrote. You wrote that - "I am EB3-India, yet I dont support the removal of per country limits, as there is a reason for the diversity rule, Indians and Chinese are currently on the wrong side of the equation so it seems "fair" to remove the quota."
Does that ring any bell?
And, if everybody was promised the current system, then there should never be any change, ever, because whenever you make any change, it will be unfair to the people who are waiting at that time, right? Even the increase in numbers or recapture is unfair because when we applied, we did not know if recapture will happen, right? So why change. There should be absolutely no change because my galactically stupid friend sc3 thinks he was "promised" something. Open your eye, there was no promise made to you or to anybody else, the system has evolved and will continue to evolve while we continue to wait for approval. Its ok if you don't believe in evolution theory, maybe that evolution thing is also "unfair" and "wrong". You see as we all continue to learn, we all continue to improve ourselves and our surroundings from that process of learning, but there are some who do not want to improve anything, inspite of learning. Here you can argue that learning process is at different level/speed for different people. So that would be quite understandable.... you know what I mean
And yes, it is unfair, because it is unfair for all those promised the current system, not because I think it is unfair.
Well, I could read out for you what you wrote. You wrote that - "I am EB3-India, yet I dont support the removal of per country limits, as there is a reason for the diversity rule, Indians and Chinese are currently on the wrong side of the equation so it seems "fair" to remove the quota."
Does that ring any bell?
And, if everybody was promised the current system, then there should never be any change, ever, because whenever you make any change, it will be unfair to the people who are waiting at that time, right? Even the increase in numbers or recapture is unfair because when we applied, we did not know if recapture will happen, right? So why change. There should be absolutely no change because my galactically stupid friend sc3 thinks he was "promised" something. Open your eye, there was no promise made to you or to anybody else, the system has evolved and will continue to evolve while we continue to wait for approval. Its ok if you don't believe in evolution theory, maybe that evolution thing is also "unfair" and "wrong". You see as we all continue to learn, we all continue to improve ourselves and our surroundings from that process of learning, but there are some who do not want to improve anything, inspite of learning. Here you can argue that learning process is at different level/speed for different people. So that would be quite understandable.... you know what I mean
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bigboy007
07-18 05:40 AM
Dude, You might be a new entry in to the ball of Immigration now. As said earlier , every one is free to judge and post the queries. If IV is shutting door of any questions you wouldnt have seen forum threads. There is enough discussion and direction taken on information being released to ALL members. Why one should complain IV not doing anything ?
here are some atleast, immaterial you agree or not:
1. If ppl are reaping benefits of EAD for multiple years , its becoz of IV.
2. whole of July fiasco was a win becoz of IV , not sure whether you are in the boat, but i can see the pain and how IV helped all of us.
3. all the admin fixes were co-ordinated by IV ,
4. The list goes on.. those 3 above are just enough to prove the help an ORGANIZATION did with minimal resources. Also please note none of the core are full time IV , they are also ppl like you and me.
Reason one has donor forum is becoz they are trusted sources. How can one know that you are pro-immigrant or anti-immigrant.
You would see dialy or minutes updates on sites of anti-immigrants becoz they have dedicated members and number base is too high.
Again , no one is shutting door against you, looking at your post i see you are shutting door against yourself just becoz your idea of Fax through AILA is not acceptable as an IV agenda.
Do you know first of all what provisions in CIR 2007 were in there which would have broke the back of ppl on H1 and potential immigrants? Can you confirm which provisions of CIR 2009 if there be one will help you ? will you support CIR even if it says you have to go back to india in no time ? AILA never mentioned in first place whether it would support EB community.
Plain simple, we pay Dollars even to newspaper ... You dont want to contribute for your own cause but get info for free and prove that will raise for your own cause. Those newsletters are for your benefit and collectively for the whole community.
Still IV is posting info to non-paying members , IV Never shuts its door but with limited resources they are doing what they can. Before complaining on IV you do your part. :cool:
Hope this helps you to rethink differently...
Also , FYI... AILA doesnt post all messages to free members .. all the critical info is circulated via PAID members of AILA.. this is part of any organization ... Can you complain against AILA, becoz if you are FREE member of AILA you still get emails like the one reg. Fax to CIR... There is a lot going in background for CIR than many of us even know...
Paskal, You are right - I do not understand. But mostly I cannot understand because as an organisation - you do not explain. Frankly, all I can do is register my disappointment at both your response and your attitude.While I get it that IV is actively involved in doing things over the years aimed at resolving this issue, I might feel that I could respect and maybe even understand these efforts better if IV kept its website up to date and all members who sign in updated on what's happening.
I have often seen threads on this site that have members complaining that IV is not doing anything - to which invariably the response is that one should join the donor forum. On the other hand we get newsletters from admin that ask up to tighten our belts etc. - and get more involved. Well, that cannot happen unless IV provides more updated information on what IV is actually doing, veiled references to behind the scenes activity and years of hard work are not enough to involve all those who have signed up here to become 'more involved'.
As for this discussion going nowhere I could not agree more - you see to have an open discussion or indeed debate - there must be at least 2 willing participants. And since you have already decided that you do not have time for the Qs of a mere non-paying member of this forum, I do not expect any better.
By the way, the way ahead is not to close doors, but to welcome questions and encourge those on this forum with curiosity to be more active. More often than not, I have seen that those who Q on this forum, are mocked, ignored, and treated as if they are wasting CORE's time. Sad for a forum that hopes to involve a wider audience in this issue.
Thanks!!
Raji
here are some atleast, immaterial you agree or not:
1. If ppl are reaping benefits of EAD for multiple years , its becoz of IV.
2. whole of July fiasco was a win becoz of IV , not sure whether you are in the boat, but i can see the pain and how IV helped all of us.
3. all the admin fixes were co-ordinated by IV ,
4. The list goes on.. those 3 above are just enough to prove the help an ORGANIZATION did with minimal resources. Also please note none of the core are full time IV , they are also ppl like you and me.
Reason one has donor forum is becoz they are trusted sources. How can one know that you are pro-immigrant or anti-immigrant.
You would see dialy or minutes updates on sites of anti-immigrants becoz they have dedicated members and number base is too high.
Again , no one is shutting door against you, looking at your post i see you are shutting door against yourself just becoz your idea of Fax through AILA is not acceptable as an IV agenda.
Do you know first of all what provisions in CIR 2007 were in there which would have broke the back of ppl on H1 and potential immigrants? Can you confirm which provisions of CIR 2009 if there be one will help you ? will you support CIR even if it says you have to go back to india in no time ? AILA never mentioned in first place whether it would support EB community.
Plain simple, we pay Dollars even to newspaper ... You dont want to contribute for your own cause but get info for free and prove that will raise for your own cause. Those newsletters are for your benefit and collectively for the whole community.
Still IV is posting info to non-paying members , IV Never shuts its door but with limited resources they are doing what they can. Before complaining on IV you do your part. :cool:
Hope this helps you to rethink differently...
Also , FYI... AILA doesnt post all messages to free members .. all the critical info is circulated via PAID members of AILA.. this is part of any organization ... Can you complain against AILA, becoz if you are FREE member of AILA you still get emails like the one reg. Fax to CIR... There is a lot going in background for CIR than many of us even know...
Paskal, You are right - I do not understand. But mostly I cannot understand because as an organisation - you do not explain. Frankly, all I can do is register my disappointment at both your response and your attitude.While I get it that IV is actively involved in doing things over the years aimed at resolving this issue, I might feel that I could respect and maybe even understand these efforts better if IV kept its website up to date and all members who sign in updated on what's happening.
I have often seen threads on this site that have members complaining that IV is not doing anything - to which invariably the response is that one should join the donor forum. On the other hand we get newsletters from admin that ask up to tighten our belts etc. - and get more involved. Well, that cannot happen unless IV provides more updated information on what IV is actually doing, veiled references to behind the scenes activity and years of hard work are not enough to involve all those who have signed up here to become 'more involved'.
As for this discussion going nowhere I could not agree more - you see to have an open discussion or indeed debate - there must be at least 2 willing participants. And since you have already decided that you do not have time for the Qs of a mere non-paying member of this forum, I do not expect any better.
By the way, the way ahead is not to close doors, but to welcome questions and encourge those on this forum with curiosity to be more active. More often than not, I have seen that those who Q on this forum, are mocked, ignored, and treated as if they are wasting CORE's time. Sad for a forum that hopes to involve a wider audience in this issue.
Thanks!!
Raji
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senthil
07-10 02:28 PM
once significant amount of AOS applns were received - there will be a process to dispatch these rejected applications base don priority date.
cmon people for uscis everything is a process and all know it takes time
im not pessimistic, but uscis made me so.
like others say - dont build hopes unless u see fruit in ur hand. my2c
cmon people for uscis everything is a process and all know it takes time
im not pessimistic, but uscis made me so.
like others say - dont build hopes unless u see fruit in ur hand. my2c
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xu1
04-08 11:22 AM
understood.. i know it's the logistics. Thanks for the hard work IV!
Nagireddi
01-31 06:24 PM
I have just voted.
crazyAbtUS
12-24 03:36 PM
Done
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